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RHOA: Phaedra Parks Divorcing Husband Apollo Nida

Real Housewives of Atlanta star Phaedra Parks is reportedly filing for divorce from her estrange husband Apollo Nida.

Appolo is gearing up to start his 8-year prison sentence for money laundering and credit card fraud.

SEE ALSO: RHOA Star Apollo Nida Handed 8-Year Prison Sentence

Things started to go further downhill for the couple when Apollo admitted that he tried to have an affair with Real Housewives of Atlanta star Kenya Moore. Apollo admitted that he lied about to Phaedra telling her that Kenya was the one pursing him because he didn’t want her to find out the truth.

His admission has caused Phaedra to take a leave of absence from the Real Housewives of Atlanta because of the embarrassment.

According to reports, she is already moving to file for divorce and will be preventing their kids from seeing Apollo in prison.

During a recent interview with Be100 Radio, Apollo Nida says his marriage could be over because Phaedra didn’t even show at his sentencing hearing.

“I doubt it,” Apollo said. “I mean my wife didn’t even show up for my f***in’ sentencing so you know I’m still kind of- I’m still salty about that.”


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  2. Further more Kenya treated RHOA as a sitcom, an acting gig, while the others were trying to play by reality show rules. It is just a job for Kenya who doesn’t even live in Atlanta. ATL is just the set that she goes to work on…As an actress Kenya wanted to mock the other women lives…taking in all they wanted to share with her and in her presence to be used against them later, while giving them very little of herself. She was brilliant in getting under Nene’s skin as Nene did not know what to do with someone so conniving. No one really knew what Kenya was going to be up to next so they became apprehensive around her….I’ve read that she takes this same character onto the Apprentice and is pretty much viewed the same way…Should be interesting to see what antics she brings to RHOA next season, since she doesn’t have any real relationships with the others. And will the other women keep playing by reality show rules or will they also become characters of themselves playing in a reality show like Kenya does.

    • Oh please is this article about kenya or Apollo. Apollo is the one that has been accused lying, doing identity theft, stealing and etc. Nene was fighting with one cast member after another each season. She fought with sheree, Kim, Dwight, Phaedra, Marlo and kenya. I don’t see you putting your analysis on her. When RHOA first started NeNe was the villian then and she changed and became and different character. If you are going to accuse Kenya of being a villain then you better put that on Nene to or Kim who was actually going out with a married man. I think next season she will be fine, it has been reported she is going out with someone now. All the women in RHOA are all acting one way or another, all of them not just kenya. I have watched real housewives of atlanta from the beginning from season 1 and from what I see all of them play characters. Lisa WU has mentioned this of why she left the show that Bravo wanted her to play a character cause they thought she was boring and she left, she wasn’t comfortable with it. If lisa Wu from season 1 noticed this, it is pretty obvious in the RHOA NOW many are playing some way or another to stay on the show, stop making this about Kenya

  3. The viewers got to see Kenya being just a vulnerable as we saw her being nasty. The other women only saw Evil Kenya. If you remember, the times when Kenya was vulnerable the other women were not around. When she discussed wanting children with her aunt, speaking with her dad about the rejection of her mother,…etc. She would never show her vulnerable side while with the other women until the last couple of episodes when she invited a few of them to go to the witch doctor to bless her womb and then to those same women when her dog died. When Kenya filmed with the women she was either throwing shade from something she had previously heard about them or trying to provoke one of them or their guest to get a reaction that she could talk about in her confessionals. Kenya established her character on the show as the bad guy more devious than Sheree. She hit below the belt more often than any of the others in confessionals, while filming with her hairstylist, …etc. Kenya’s goal this season was to initially go after Porsha and Phaedra for wronging her last season then later NeNe. While Porsha was going thru her separation and divorce and grieving it all and trying to figure it out while getting herself together with all of the emotional highs and lows that come with it, Kenya was kicking her at every turn. Kenya absolutely did not have any respect for Phaedra’s marriage. So when you establish yourself as the bad guy you can’t be mad that people react to you that way.

    • To me Kenya seemed genuine when her dog died and at the Mexico Vacation, she wanted to get closer, I didn’t see shay at all. Even nene and phaedra admitted it in the reunion that they felt she was genuine when it came to her dog so stop spinning facts. Kenya is not perfect at all and we all know that but this article proves apollo has been lying about kenya from the beginning(regardless of how you feel about her) and his behaviour has caught up with him and he is going to jail.

  4. apollo is selfish wrong for what hes done he also knew better to do what he has did. phadra park has every rights to leave divorce him too for his behaviors actions as well.

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  6. Phaedra fell for Apollo in college and married him upon release from prison. She, like many, thought she could make him into a family man. Instead, he disrespected her left and right. She has nothing to be ashamed about because she has always made her family a priority and works her “donkey butt” off to support them. She doesn’t owe Kenya an apology because the level of flirting was disrespectful. We really don’t know if Apollo really apologized. If he did, we don’t really know if he did it because Kenya agreed to be his “ride or die chick” while he’s in prison this time around. I’m thinking this is the case and he was the Sugar Daddy buying Kenya the many gifts. Honestly, don’t think anyone is going to be there after waiting for 8 years and then having to pay back the millions stolen. First wait, to go straight into debt. He’s not that cute. Maybe he can become a male stripper since he loves the strip clubs! Guess he’ll be too old once he’s released. One thing for sure, he’ll never get a woman like Phaedra again. She made good money, was a good wife, and gave him two cute babies. But, he wanted to live this baller lifestyle where he could spend $20K in a strip club in one night. Was it worth it? I think NOT!

  7. Phaedra probably wrote those lies herself. And we all know what a liar she is. She even lied about her baby’s due date, when it was obvious that an eight lb baby wasn’t premature.

    It’s a resume for crying out loud. People always fudge that stuff. If Phaedra had some money she would be taking a real leave of absence during these most trying times.

    As it is, she’s only taking a few episodes off because she needs the money. That’s crystal clear.

    She has all this money and yet she chooses to drag her children through this mud? She chooses to suffer the humiliation of her huzzband going to jail on national TV, when she could sit back and rest on her bankroll?

    If she has money, then she’s an even bigger fool than I thought.

    • Those thing can be verified on a resume and I am sure the government has went over her income with a fine tooth comb to be sure she was not holding anything that belong to the people that her husband stole money from. Since when do you know more than the FEDS? Until she is arrested for something you are way off base. Why is she not arrested and charged along with her husband? If she was part of it, you do not think that they are capable of linking her by her spending habits? Really, they know what to do. You are not interested in facts but just more insinuating without any proof of fact or even just cause when you look at everyone involved. Criminals lie, but you sure want to believe them after they have been caught.
      He did the crime, Phaedra should not have to stop making money because of what he did. Her presence will not change in her children’s life as she was the bread winner in the first place. Her mother has always been there and lives with her when she helps out, or did you miss Apollo say that? Her children’s lifestyle should not have to change for you to be satisfied with how she runs her home in regards to her children. That is her prerogative. She knows what she is up against, and she will do what is in their best interest and hers.
      Phaedra is not the reason her children are facing what they are, Apollo is. There is only so much you should be holding her responsible for. Her own actions would be a good start, and trusting in her mother who is a pastor, that she raised her right is enough for me not to worry about her children. I could care less about her income and speaking on what she should and should not do in regards to it.

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  9. Being broke isn’t a crime, stealing money is the crime. And yes, her salary isn’t bad at all. So I don’t understand how she can be broke, unless someone believes everything Moose says.

  10. Dude must like that jail life…. I don’t feel sorry for his gay ass….

  11. That ho just wanted some light skinned kids anyway lol

  12. Most of the women on this board has encountered a guy that wasn’t so good to them or lied etc. Who in their right mind is happy for divorce, Phaedra loved Apollo, bad boy or not, she loved him. She gave it her all. You can’t tell me that you wouldn’t have wanted to hold and love a man like Apollo. I would fight for my man and if I found out terrible things I would gracefully walk away. Not the hood way, fighting , cursing and degrading. If you are smart and know God, education (life) and business, Phaedra handled her business, kept smiling and now is walking away to recover. She is probably devastated. I know that all of you have been in this position and are probably single now. Based on all of the the negativity and praises for Apollo and Kenya’s affair, crimes and harm that they both caused,tells me alot about your characters, don’t throw stones.

  13. I would not put much trust in anything Apollo says, he is to desperate, angry and all over the place right now in this stage of his life. One thing is sure, he will say/do whatever he can say to swing anything to his advantage at this point. He has nothing left so he just trying to get in where he can fit in. LOL No one is putting money on your books Apollo. You had it all and you blew it. Stop trying to piss your wife off before you go because she is not acting like you want her to act. You messed up now deal with it. You had your chance to be all up in the limelight and tell your story. YOU BLEW IT! KAPUT! No one falling for your game but weak individuals who take your words as facts when you have nothing to lose at this point.

    • That’s a matter of opinion. But when it comes to Kenya; jealous much?
      And women are no better than men and vise versa. Niether one belong on a pedestal. People are people.

      • Nothing is opinion, he is a con-artist. Kenya likes married men, and both are facts, even if you fail to realize them as facts that can be verified. I am specific in who I speak about, I have not said anything about men and women, you did. Pedestal who is on a pedestal? This is about right and wrong. PERIOD.

        I am no “beauty queen”, but I am far from unattractive as well. I am beautiful and I am a queen in my own right. I could have done pageants, just never saw the need/want.

        I do not know Kenya and have nothing to be jealous of. I have never been a jealous person. I guess it is because of my upbringing. I just believe what is for me is for me, and what is for others is for them. Because I look at unhealthy behavior as such on Kenya’s part, should not give you cause of insecurity on my part. Kenya just wrong.

        I do know that I would not speak to any woman about their own husband they way Kenya spoke to Phaedra about Apollo. Why? What do I want with him? Perhaps Kenya favors you and reminds you of yourself, and gives you encouragement that you too can have the married pretty boy or a chance with a pretty boy? You go right ahead with that one too if that apply and see what you get in the long run.

        I do not need anything that belongs to someone else. I do not need to feel good about myself if a married man gives me attention. It does not give me pleasure to rub his wife face in it either. I do not want Phaedra’s or Kenya’s lives, and I am not jealous of their lives either. I would like for people to understand healthy and balanced living. For them to move out of dysfunctional behavior instead of promoting it.

        Kenya should respect marriage, so that her own will not have to go thru what she did, to disrespect Phaedra’s marriage. What goes around comes around. No one but Kenya forced her to disrespect Phaedra. So uphold that!

        There is nothing you can throw my way that well make me understand why you are covering for a woman who think it is funny or fun to come between a man and his wife, as a single unrelated woman herself.

        Now go back and look at Kenya shaking her butt in front of all those men when they were at the bar prior to when Phaedra came in and found her and Apollo talking. She had previously asked Kenya to stay away from him.

        There were no wives/girlfriends there with all of those unavailable men. So why was she? If she wanted to talk to Apollo she should have went to his wife, lawyer or not to get it done. So uphold that!

        When Apollo lifted her up and had his hand on her rear and threw her in the pool, she could have stopped him and said you are out of line. Do not touch me in places reserved for my significant other. Uphold that! Did she do that no.

        There relationship started out wrong and ended wrong because that is what you get when you do not start out relationships in the right manner. Uphold that!

      • No. But thanks for getting personal.
        Did it EVER occur to you that Kenya did it DELIBERATELY to get even ? Last time. Kenya confided (for T.V. anyway) to Phaedra that her mother denied her and gave her to her father and that her mother tells people she had no children ; and that her mother suffers from mental illness.
        After Phaedra got the ammo she was looking for, she took that information and called Kenya crazy. She said it ran in her family. Constantly. BEFORE Apollo.
        She was hurt and she got EVEN. Apollo volunteered his stupid self. she could see he liked her – and she used him. What goes around….. Nobody wants Apollo’s jailbird, married behind. NOBODY. Good for Kenya.
        But If you REALLY want to ask yourself something; ask yourself why Apollo wanted to disrespect Phaedra. That’s the bigger question. What was really going on in that marriage.
        You have taken this way to personally. Uncalled for.
        I’m done.

      • I do not care why Kenya did it, it was not ladylike for her and in her best interest to do that. I have already said it was not a nice thing for Phaedra to do Kenya like that in regards to her mother.
        Maybe Phaedra has more knowledge of what she is speaking about than you and I could gather? Who does look a little crazy dealing around someone else husband. Mental illness is hereditary that is a known fact, but Phaedra did not have to rub that in either.
        Getting even should not put you in a place of danger, which is not where Phaedra placed herself after saying those things to Kenya, yet Kenya has to get even by placing herself in dangers way? Not smart, and it should not be condoned. Yet when she is physically assaulted by Porsha she calls the cops not understanding that she keeps putting herself in those situations, and you are condoning her doing so. I say both you and Kenya need to grow up and find a more healthy way of resolving conflict.
        If you do not want something you do not deal with it. Period. You move on and forget about it, nevermind the reason. It is not as important as you distancing yourself from what you do not want. I have a pig for sale you want it. No and move on.
        What is personal for me is for society to understand dysfunctional behavior and nip it in the bud instead of using excuses to rationalize the use of dysfunctional behavior. Now that you know where I personally stand, which one are you doing? Rationalizing dysfunctional behavior, or preventing it for anyone else who has that problem? Either you part of the solution or part of the problem.

    • If you don’t put trust in anything Apollo says then Kenya shouldn’t be an issue for you. Why would you be saying that Kenya went after him, which was a lie that came from Apollo?


  14. Why do soo many women who act like their stuff don’t stink lie down with the biggest BUMS? I never understood this phenomenon.

    • Because some women goes off of chemistry alone, and feel that they are being honest to their heart regardless of what anyone thinks. To thy own self be true and they take pride in that fact. Unfortunately, living life is also more than just chemistry. It is also finding a person who values what you value, have the ability to communicate, problem solve, give as well as take, be open to change and healthy growth in life, able to admit/know when they are wrong and stop doing that behavior, be honest without being demanding in issues that are not that serious, so that your honesty does not becomes stubbornness, plus so much more, etc. etc. etc. When chemistry become routine, what is left over after that to take you to the next level while sustaining the marriage? Answer the tough questions first, and put chemistry on the back burner, because either you have chemistry or you do not, and the sole focus on it primarily is incorrect. Yes it needs to be there, but you also should be able to see a mature picture of your life and how you are going to sustain it’s healthy growth.

      • Good post. I don’t think it’s chemistry, I think the focus on the fake superficial stuff is what gets them in trouble. How else would an “educated” woman not be able to see such a BUM for what he is? Not having an education or job and a prison record was right in front of her face from the door.

      • You mean you do not think that it is chemistry alone…

        I believe there is some truth in that statement.

        I do not think it is superficial more than chemical attraction, as these ladies can buy their own superficial things.

      • What I’m talking about is superficial qualities like the SWAGGA thing. Many are learning that a bum with swagga is still a bum.

  15. Phaedra had to remain poised, to the end. Finding out that your husband is cheating and breaking the law, and you have a legal contract with RHOA. Come on what would you do?

    • Phaedra was in on it

      • Prove it….. OK that shut it!

      • Prove it……OK that shut it!

      • You just have to be to connect the dots. Everything they’ve said has been proven to be a lie. Sometimes people have to use their brains.

      • She did not need his money. He is the one trying to keep up with his wife, not the other way around.

      • Where do you think Phaedra’s “money” comes from? She is on record as having only prosecuted seven cases in her career. So, where is all of this money she’s supposed to have? Being a lawyer doesn’t automatically make you successful.

        She profited from Apollo’s ill gotten gains, remember the lavish parties? In all of her seasons on the show she’s litigated two cases, (I think). The criminal in the parking lot and Sheree’s case which she lost even though Bob represented himself. She lost to a layman, and you believe she’s rich and successful?

        Kenya also gets paid more than her, so if Kenya’s broke, so if Phaedra. Why else would she be holding onto her Bravo check if she could afford to go without it?

        She’s willing to take herself and her family through the wringer just to keep getting that paycheck. Without Apollo’s thievery, she’s broke. Let’s see how many lavish parties she throws next season. I would be surprised if it was one.

      • Everything she does is not shown on camera due to confidentiality in some cases.


        Phaedra has served as a legal analyst for HLN during the Zimmerman Trial, NBC and Fox News during the Michael Jackson trial, Entertainment Tonight, Celebrity Justice, EXTRA, Court TV and various local news outlets. In addition to an analyst, Phaedra has also been featured in numerous media publications such as – Newsweek, People, XXL, Rolling Out, JET, King, Source, US Weekly,, the L.A. Focus, The Boston Herald, the Atlanta Journal Constitution and The New York Times. Phaedra has offered her legal expertise on public issues while serving as a featured as a regular guest speaker on broadcasts for Atlanta’s Hot 107.9, V-103, Newstalk 680, and WAOK. While diversifying her career in the law, Phaedra successfully worked as the consulting producer and talent for one of BET’s most highly viewed shows, Tiny & Toya and most recently, she brought flavor and flair to the third season of The Real Housewives of Atlanta.
        As well, Phaedra is also selling stun guns and T-shirts as well. So I believe she is earning substantial income and not just income from the RHOA franchise alone. This upcoming season due to her issues, I believe she should be paid more than Kenya. Her storyline is way more interesting, and has been since she joined the show. She does have her own storyline unlike Kenya who storyline is all up in the other cast storylines.

        Lawyers get paid for writing contracts and other things that do not involve court, but can hold up in court as well. Any attorney can lose to a layman who keeps his ducks in a row who has nothing to hide, as what appears to be the case here. An attorney sometimes is as strong as their weakest link. Just because you hire an attorney does not mean you will get your every desire either. They can be there to make sure you are represented in your rights, even if you have no other rights under the agreement, according to the judge. lol

      • She did not need Apollo’s money.

      • Read above post.

      • Well, when we said Apollo was lying, people didn’t believe that either. Now he’s coming out and admitting it. We were right before and we’ll be right again.

        It’s just a matter of time.

    • Shady is the most criminal and unethical

  16. She pretends to be ethical. She’s been sleeping around for free. Now she’s broke.

    • Pretends she’s been telling the truth all along, read the article again lol. The thing that Apollo the criminal has been accusing Kenya for has been proven to be lies.

      • He actually came out and said he lied and some people simply won’t accept it.

      • Your right, It doesn’t surprise me

      • Apollo just want someone to put money on his book. Quit falling for that con artist.

      • Yes and Apollo has a track record of lying and deceiving people. Yet this time he telling the truth with out a motive. Yea right. He just want her to put money on his book. Kenya I am going to the moon, okay, you be careful.

      • It was obvious that Apollo was lying, because what he was saying didn’t make sense. When he said he met up with Kenya, Kenya was out of the country.

        So many of us already knew he was lying. It’s funny how some people believed him when he was lying, but don’t believe him when he tells the truth.

        That’s hilarious.

      • Some people also believe Kenya’s behavior that coincide the words that are coming out of Apollo’s mouth. It is all relative.

      • Skip Apollo right now, his word can not be trusted. Now what did Kenya portray on television before America’s eyes? Kenya was attracted to him and she let it be known. Apollo just want her to put money on his books. Cute guys think they can get by on their looks with women that they look better than. They just dog them out and move on to the next “more than happy” person with low self esteem.

      • SMH!

      • I’m SMH too!
        It seems some people are going to go down in the flames Phaedra is so desperately trying to put out.
        I’m certainly glad too, that I know what love looks like and it is very different than what I have viewed between Phaedra & Apollo!
        In fact it seems everyone in her life that has been accused of crime fits the same profile. You know: down on their luck, poor and desperate. Lets think about all the people accusing and connected to her who fit that profile.
        I will leave you to connect those dots- and I know you will. Lol
        To deduce that Apollo would be smart enough to operate alone on his admitted crime spree yet, dumb enough to think at this point Kenya would now put money on his book is just flat out ludicrous to put it nicely. (I can’t even believe I’m using this lingo: “money on his book”. )
        Thank goodness for plain ole common sense.

      • Not only going down in flames, but trying not to go down without a fight.

        At first it’s funny, but then you realize that these people actually see people like Phaedra and Nene as role models. Then, it’s not funny anymore.

        I guess you’d have to live the life in order to understand.

      • Go ahead and shake your head, but thoughts leads to behavior, and behavior to actions, and actions to harm. So the harm Kenya caused to Phaedra is discounted in your book as she is his wife and it is not only for Apollo to respect, it is for everyone to respect marriage regardless of what they think of it. You are saying it is okay what she did to Phaedra and it is not as a respectful woman regardless.

      • Ok. Lets skip Apollo for a minute.
        Why are there so many negative stories floating around about Phaedra’s character? There are former associates willing to go on record against a “brilliant” attorney. -not just one- many. They are accusing her of sleeping with their husband, cheating on her own partner, running a prostitution ring, having a boy AND girlfriend at the same time-You name it, it’s out there about Phaedra. Lets not forget her infamous title of Head Dr. that she seems more known for than her J. D. Uphold that!
        This is real life- not reality BS. If it is infidelity you so abhor then, why are you not just as upset with Phaedra? Is EVERY body lying on her too?
        How many people in Kenya’s community, or of her business associates have you heard come forward about her character in any negative way? I think that answer is none!
        What do you Really have on Kenya other than she said Apollo was fine, her pushing him in the pool, and cornering him in the presence of the other men to make him trip on his own lies and confirm what a lot of us already figured out?
        There is a lot of smoke around your girl Phaedra. She’s been successful to fool some- but the rest of us see and smell the smoke- and know there is definitely a fire up in that piece.

      • I have not seen anyone step up and say those things, except Nene with the head doctor comment, and I do not put much into that because men can say anything and think they get a free pass. Those that are speaking for them to know, then they must have been doing the same thing, if it is true. How are you going to know the personal details of a person life unless you are participating or lying or speaking hearsay(which is not fact)? You played that game in school where the teacher tell a child something and he has to tell another child, when it gets to the last child, the story is not even what the first child said. : ) So you discounted from the start with me with that old ish.
        It is one thing for something to come from the horses mouth, then for it to be repeated hearsay and gossip. I am an adult and I act as such. People lied on Jesus Christ.
        Google Kenya and I would think if stories are out there on me on the internet, that I would sue, just like Phaedra did with that book you quoting from.
        I have already spoke on Kenya and my issues with her behavior, so read my posts and you will get the gist.
        Phaedra has a lot of things occurring with her and it all stems with Apollo. Otherwise all that other ish is nothing more than gossip and mess, that is not preventing her from bettering herself. I can not be mad at that. People will talk and the more successful you are the more they will hate.
        Be Blessed!

      • I am blessed. Thanks.
        I just know that something in the buttermilk ain’t clean.
        @ the ref to Jesus- wow. Okay, – so that is one analogy I will just pull right on off the table at the jump. Sorry.
        Have you ever asked yourself why so many chose Phaedra to lie on? No one else. Just Phaedra?
        What do you consider the horses mouth? So, Apollo and Phaedra’s accusations can be the horses mouth as Kenya is concerned but those accusing Phaedra are just gossiping? Screwy logic.
        Well then, how about the things we certainly have 1st hand knowledge of based on what we have witnessed ourselves.
        She is a woman who:
        revels in chicks with d*cks, watching strippers who service themselves, is overly obsessed with women’s private parts, loves strip clubs and seizes every opportunity to ref the size of a mans package, marries a man fresh out of prison, with whom she makes reference to simultaneously giving a blow job in family pictures with her children -all very low brow -certainly not positive attributes for a lady.
        This is definitely the type of women you would hear these types of stories about. I could keep going but I think I’ve said enough to make myself nauseous. Are any of these traits of successful people you know and would choose to associate yourself with? want to be close to? Wish for your daughters? Anything even remotely positive here? …and that’s just what we see. God bless what’s done in the dark.
        Furthermore, The bad stories about Phaedra come from both women and men. The hater (women) and player (men) cards won’t work here. Not everyone is lying.
        It’s not even about Kenya at this point. Kenya is really a non factor to this unfortunate story.
        Phaedra’s life is crumbling because she has made a plethora of very bad choices in her life. …. and with so many specialties in her arsenal she must certainly have known what she was setting herself up for.
        I will never believe she knew nothing of Apollo’s activities or was never involved. Connecting the dots have nothing to do with ones level of maturity or adulthood. It simply snout using your common sense.
        Phaedra has been caught in big lies more than once-baby gate, the but dial, etc- if she told me American dollars are green, I’d still go and check to make sure.
        ….and yes she sued in ref to the accusations but she’s been ducking and dodging every since. She is being forced to come in and stand behind her assertions that she was lied on. Does that sound like an innocent person to you? Sounds like somebody called her bluff to me.
        I have googled Kenya, interestingly enough. Nothing negative outside of reality Tv. People do an awful lot of reaching to defend Phaedra, giving her the title of brilliant and stupid all at once. Sometimes, all it takes is to look at what’s right in front of you.
        I see you have a lot of faith in her. Cool. I see her very differently and I think this is not the end of the story.
        But, this is the beauty of the blogs. Everyone gets to express their opinion equally. Peace.

      • Most Welcome.
        Using Phaedra’s words in which case I would defer to facts and hold the assumptions, until legitimate additional facts become available. Think if that was you in her position and you were innocent. Those children father are already gone and you pushing for the mother to be sent to prison to. If she deserves it is one thing, but if she does not that is an entirely different thing.

        Jesus said he was married to the backslider. The backslider says he is not going to do a certain wrong thing again and then goes back and does it. Jesus forgives, but that does not mean he accepts the wrong they did, He just forgives it. Even with Him being around people that no one else wanted to be around, society casted Him into the group with all the rest of the lawbreakers, even as He was there trying to get them to do things a better way. Not to far off that analogy now am I? lol

        Funny that as a adult if you are down and out, no one but family pays you any attention, but pull up and see if everyone except family, and sometime they as well, begin to single you out with negativity.

        The horses mouth is the person who actually seen the illegal act being committed, or the wrong deed being done, there is no ambiguity overshadowing the wrong act. I have not used Phaedra or Apollo as the horses mouth for anything that I have said to you, so why are you inferring that I have?

        Phaedra’s affinity with strip bars and the people who work there, is beyond my control. It happens to not be a personal choice of mines that I partake in, however it is not against the law, however that I feel about it. Phaedra on one hand call on God, and visits strip clubs at other times. In my opinion, I wish she would choose another activity that was not so demoralizing to women, but she is not me, and do not feel the way I do about it. I have never said she was a saint, just that she has some good qualities that when she is in the process of trying to do good with someone that society has throw away, maybe she to should be given the benefit of the doubt. I also thinks she does it due to her being an entertainment attorney, it is like handing out cards to her, but I do not think of it as classy. She could do the same thing without going in those places, but I am not sure if her target customers would look at her the same. I can pass on some of her antics, believe that, but again, they are not against the law. They should not be used to hint of unlawful behavior as they are not unlawful, just not tasteful. We can not run her house or sexual preferences as long as she is not breaking any law. Yet I never see anyone calling out all these men going into strip clubs either and accusing them of breaking the any laws. Yet it is part of her business cliental. Once she married I do not think the things you are speaking of exists outside of her marriage. I could be wrong, heck what do I know in regards to that sort of life, and I do not understand why I have to discuss another woman at a strip club or her husband spending more time at them than she do. lol People can infer many things from it, and some I have seen play out on television as unladylike, but she is not breaking any law of man and she has her husband ok to do so. It could be their thing for all I care. I really find it hard to discuss this sort of thing because to me sexuality belong strictly to my husband and no one else to see, but that is me, and not everyone.

        I have never said Phaedra did not have room for improvement. We all do. If I take up for her on certain instances do not mean I agree with everything she does. I am simply speaking on the topic of the discussion and giving my reasons for doing so. If someone tells me she is guilty of her husband crimes, I will still have a issue with it, because we are all responsible for our own actions. That means her husband too as an adult. His wrongs belong to him and hers to her. If they break the law together I believe in the justice system to handle it and that is the end of it.

        What is done in the dark will come to the light. That you do not have to wish on, throw more rocks on or cover it up. You do not have to do anything. It will happen on it’s own. You do not have to make it happen.

        I have not seen or read one credible source come forward that proves Phaedra is breaking the law. Until then it is what it is. What is so hard about someone going to the police to report her if they had information? NOTHING! So if it is out there, then they should take it to the authorities, otherwise let her be. It is not for us to be rogue cops. Plus you are not getting paid for it. All it take is for them to take the evidence to the police, it is simple as that. Until then is all ish!

        Kenya put herself in that situation with Apollo. NONE of the other ladies on the show did. That is her fault and shows her lack of care for her own reputation. If it is wrong for Phaedra to do all of those things that you just called her out on, then it is just as wrong for Kenya to insinuate that those things can or could occur between her and Apollo. Yes those things occurred just by her refusing to stay away from married men, as they all come along with the picture. Kenya gets no pass either. Her and Apollo was wearing the same thing at the swimming pool that they wear in strip clubs and physical touching should have been something she stood against in that environment. Seeking to be alone with him was wrong as well, even texting him back was wrong, when she could have picked up the phone and call his wife and said what does your husband want with me? After failing to do that and calling him babe in a sent text she proceeds to not listen to what his wife requests of her, which is to stay away from him. Then she rubs it in. Who is to say that nothing occurred since she went out of her way to not listen to his wife, and seeking him out? The same thing that occurs in the strip club could have taken place there as well, with only a liar and an attention seeking Kenya to say otherwise. NOT GOOD EITHER FOR THE SAME REASON. If Phaedra a freak, so is Apollo, and Kenya as well for not putting him in his place from the beginning and reveling in his attention. She hurt her own reputation, you know as well as I do, a single woman has no reason to be running behind a married man without reason. I do not buy the Apollo lying bit. She could have said that and moved on without pursing Apollo, if he was a non-factor.

        Common sense can fail you too, it is not 100% when you have to rely on someone else actions outside of your own. That takes it to 50% right there. lol

        It also depends where he spent the money, we are not aware of that and that alone can speak volume. How do we know he does not have it hid somewhere so if Phaedra leaves him, when he gets out, he has money? Take her down and he makes out with the loot? It is just to many ifs, and, or buts, to this story. If you throw in legitimate income from him going onto the RHOA and the DVD and club appearances, there is room for him to hide behind what he was doing.
        I am waiting to see the outcome of that situation with Angela Stanton(?). She could be waiting to take care of that business with Apollo and clear herself of that, because it will show that once again she had nothing to do with his activities if she is not charged, and can open the gate for her lawsuit as well.

        I must be able to pull up more things on Kenya that you then because they are on the internet unrelated to the show that she is on.

        Yes, we get to discuss different points of views and see things that we may have overlooked or did not pay attention too.

        Should Phaedra choose to remain with Apollo after this, I may find it difficult to believe that she is not connected in some way. Apollo has done to much and made her risk to much. Yes, RHOA will be interesting this go round. : )

        I do not think any reality show has it going on like RHOA at this point. : /


      • Very interesting. So if someone accused Phaedra of criminal acts that she herself was involved in, is that not the horses mouth? If another woman says she slept with her husband (same thing she accused Kendra of) and the same woman said she was approached by her to discuss running a prostitution ring- is that not the horses mouth? If a man said he ran some illegal “errands” for her-is that not the horses mouth? If a man says he witnessed her having a lovers spat with another woman while she was in a relationship with a man….?
        There are more horses out there than you can shake a stick at. Lol
        Of course, I would never push for an innocent person to be sent to jail- but that’s just it. I don’t think she is innocent. Just too much bad stuff now.

        My point in referencing the low brow activities is only to point out that people who invest their time and participate in such debauchery could easily participate in something more sinister. You have to admit – those activities aren’t of the normal persons interest.

        By the way, I don’t give men passes for whoring anymore than I do women. I won’t even allow my fiancé to reference a woman in any way that he would otherwise give a man a pass for. Neither will I allow him to hold me to any standard he will not uphold himself. Luckily, we both agree on that.

        You know what really baffles me? Not once has Phaedra come forward to apologized to the families victimized by the horrible things her family – yes, her family did to them. Apollo has pleaded guilty and been sentenced now, so there is no fear of jeopardizing his case to be concerned about. She has done interviews to slam and throw shade at others and promote her book but no apologies. Crazy. She shows not one bit of remorse or contrition- even posing for pics whooping it up and partying in the face of the very people hurt by her family’s spending spree on their life’s savings. It speaks to someone devoid of a conscience and a heart, imo. Even if you had nothing to do with it wouldn’t a psychologically healthy person – especially a public personality feel compelled to offer sincere apologies and regret for something such as this?

        That said, it is hard not to pass judgement on Phaedra. She has more dirty stories swirling about/around her than all the HW’s combined.
        Yes, you’re right, Jesus did say he is married to the backslider- but he also has some very strong words for those who profess to know him but deny him by their very works, serve two masters, practice in deceit, judge people of the wrongs they are themselves guilty of- I could go on. ….
        There is another book out there too, by the way with her name in it. Boy, this woman is a hot magnet for tell alls and folks just wanting to lie on her. Lol

        You are right though. What’s done in the dark will eventually come to light.
        I think the lights are getting flipped on one by one in Phaedra’s fake life.
        Noones perfect, I agree.
        People come for Phaedra, myself included because she is so haughty, self righteous, smug and condescending and has no problem hitting below the belt. When all the while she is a poser who is wallowing in enough mud to cover the state of Atlanta. Those types of people will always make you look forward to their day of reckoning.
        Very interesting indeed this RHOA will be this coming season. Phaedra should get 2 million if she brings this ish to television. You couldn’t write a show this good if you tried, with all the twists, turns and ever more details being revealed. Lol.
        Nice chatting with you.

      • I have already stated that the horses’ mouth should not be clouded in more criminal activity itself than the person they are speaking on. Phaedra is someone who has not been charged with illegal activity. They got busted and are at wits end in their lives, they have nothing to lose. I also do not believe in a criminal profiting from rating a person out. It should be done without profit if they are inclined to tell the truth. It would have a little more merit. That is nothing more than another con fattening their pockets which Stanton was doing in the first place, now she trying to do it by bashing a woman who has not been charged in any activity and she can not prove it, with facts, only speculation with claims of Phaedra’s sexual explicit undertones to help booster her claims. It could stem from who Phaedra represents in the industry that she works in.

        Being a lawyer is not always a pretty business as we all know. Phaedra is not the only attorney who defends people that other people see as morally grotesque. They were called out on it as well for being a little to close to their clients environment. But if there is something wrong with what she is doing, then society should change the laws to stop the entertainment those people provide and without doing so those people need attorneys too and should not be without representation. This is America where everyone has rights remain as long as they do not break the laws of this country.

        I doubt they are even trying to follow the laws of God, that is something else in it’s entirety and a much higher law than earthly ones. You have to keep them separate because breaking some of God’s law is not against some of the laws of man. They may get a pass earthly. We can not make them follow God’s law, we can only encourage our hope for them to do so. There is no commanding anyone to live for Christ. It is a personal choice.
        If a credible source comes forth without being a known criminal, or repeat offender, and have nothing to gain from their actions, with an accusation on her and I am aware of it, yes I may be more inclined to pay attention to what they are speaking on depending on the circumstances surrounding what they are saying. You never get the entire story just bits and pieces, and if you have ever sat in a court room, you find that things usually take on a different meaning under examination, and the truth comes out in it’s entirety, not just a person assumptions on what was said. Credible to me means going to the authorities, not a gossip magazine to get paid for an article or anything like that, even if there may be some truth to it. You have to weight the person motives with that information as well. Are they a stand up citizen who went to the police and turned over their information and left it at that? If so I would be more inclined to believe their experience. There is a difference from believing in a gossip tabloid and blogs than believing in an article reporting from a police report from a credible source, other than criminals.

        Again what Phaedra does in her sexual life I really do not care to comment on at a point where a book has been written by a criminal exposing certain things and everyone else can easily jump on the bandwagon. Gossip is like wildfire in brush, for it ignites mess and messy people to all weigh in, for it is not it’s purpose to put gossip/itself out. Something more credible steps in and does that. As for who that will be in those people scenarios time will tell. If Phaedra is not indicted with anything, that will also speak for itself in the long run of gossip. If she is that too will speak. I have not seen her behave any type of way with someone else spouse, and she does not carry herself that way on television. If she did it would lead me to be more inclined to lean toward what others are speaking on (like Kenya). It does not. She could have just stayed single and not marry the known criminal Apollo if she wanted to lead a promiscuous lifestyle. So many things just do not add up to fact and lends itself to gossip, not factual actions on her part. When it does for me, I may be right there with you speaking on it
        She is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Phaedra is not beyond the law, attorney or not. She has to obey the laws just like everyone else. You think the police mind sending a attorney to jail for criminal activities? They do not and will not hesitate to do so with evidence. In society norms gossip and innuendo is not what govern their reactions unless credited by a reputable source. Someone like oneself. It speaks to what level you hold credible remarks. If you live in a Jerry Springer type world, then gossip and innuendo are facts, but not for the person who is beyond that limited reasoning and understanding.

        She is walking a line with her activities, but it does not mean that she is willing to throw away what she has worked so hard for in doing so. People who engage in illegal activities usually are not interested in furthering their education in businesses. Not even the mob does that, they just hire crooked people already in those professions to do it for them. They are usually lazy people who do not want to do what is required to gain wealth legally. They take all kinds of short cuts and have more money than their lifestyle supports in taxes. If her lifestyle is more than she is giving Uncle Sam you better believe the Feds would be there getting their part. No one gets around Uncle Sam!

        We are unaware of what Phaedra is doing or done and to our knowledge she has not spoken out on her husband activities except to say that she was not involved and we all know how that was met, with unbelief. Yes, she could have spoken out on others behalf as an member of society, a wife, mother, attorney, so closely related to the person who did what he did. We do not know 100% if there is a reason preventing her in doing so. She is in such turmoil, but had it been me, I would have reached out to the individuals. I do not understand why she has not, but I will refrain from going as far as to conclude that she is guilty because she has not. Her husband should have done that as the man of his family. As well as he should have apologized to his wife for putting her entire life in an uproar and jeopardy after she gave him a chance that no ONE else did. I imagine her being heart broken and devastated and just trying to deal with the aftermath in a way not to add insult to injury. As well, what should she apologize for is her poor taste in a husband who has created this environment that she now live in? He is in poor taste and it is being transferred to Phaedra by association. Had she not taken him in, most of the things about her would not have been spoken. No man needs his wife to be a man’s role and do the right thing after his mistake. That what being a man is all about, not transferring your battles to your wife who is a weaker vessel, even if she makes more than you. What makes a man a man is being one in every situation and not walking away transferring his power to a weaker vessel. Everyone has Phaedra being responsible for a man’s role and a woman’s role, but they are not putting that role on anyone else but her, because of her profession and choice of her husband.

        You have to gage things in their entirety, not just one point of interest alone. Life is not a one note wonder. It is dynamic and multi-faceted, and can not be summed up on one instance, but many different instances after looking at them all and for that truth to remain relevant thru-out. That is hard to do looking in from the outside. She is not the husband for her house, even if she is the primary bread winner. She will be soon, and everyone will be able to gage her according to their expectations with her husband there. Soon she will be on her own merit and it will not be confused with Apollo’s dysfunctional lifestyle and immature behavior.

        Phaedra’s salvation is hers alone. She knows the way. Her mother is a pastor. I do not have to preach to her, she knows the drill, and as I said, you can have some good qualities mixed with bad qualities and still choose to not live for Christ. It does not mean that I can not see the good at all in her. We do not know what is going on behind closed doors. We do know Apollo is not happy, so something is occurring in the form of words. If someone is not professing to live for Christ, then they are not being governed by Him. You know that. It does not mean that a person who is not in Christ has no good qualities. It just means that they are not professing to be a Christen in spite of what the bible has to say on things.

        I will agree she is hot every since she came on the show. Prior to her being on the show, I knew her not. Go figure. When did those books come out before the show or after? No profit if it was before the show right? So what truly is the intention? Truth or money?

        When a person does not profess to be a christen by their way of life, I look on them according to the law and society healthy/functional norms that govern society-not the dysfunctional habits/norms. Everyone who calls on God, He does not know, and it does not make them a Christen. Phaedra’s mother is a pastor so she knows the way. I do not have to judge her on her salvation as I am not God and I did not die for her sins. So I keep it within the boundaries of our earthly laws and functional norms with her. Her salvation is hers personally and between her and God, regardless of what I think, it has no bearing on my being able to see some of the things she do objectively. Everything she does is not wrong.

        I do not think that everything has run its course on the subject of Phaedra and do not want to rush to judgment in lieu of credible facts/witnesses. What would be worse to me would be a part of wishing someone in jail that does not belong there based off of what someone else did. Husband or not, Apollo admitted his guilt, and if he had more to turn over to the police on his wife he should have done it then, instead of come out after his guilty plea and insinuate her guilt on a radio station as he did in fact do. He said he did it to protect his children, but is he really protecting them by insinuating that she had a part in it and he took the rap? It goes against why he said he took the rap in the first place and muddies the environment even more in which his children live. He said he did it for the children protection? That they needed their mother?

        If I was his wife he would be gone like yesterdays advertisements in the mailbox after that comment. You take in people and no matter what you do it is never good enough once they leave. Yet they stay there the entire time until forced to get out. lol Then they have the nerve to speak negatively about you for your help. LOL You can never please dysfunctional individuals until they truly want to stop being dysfunctional and set a rational plan in motion and be committed to it.

      • Nyella2 I have to say you were making some sense to me before this post.
        “the horses’ mouth should not be clouded in more criminal activity itself and speaking on someone who has not been charged with that same activity.

        I thought you were dealing in facts but a lot of what you stated is not factual. You have only super imposed your criteria for truth and it is very flawed. If your statement were true many crimes would not be solved. That includes murder, espionage, theft, rape, negligence- you name it. Many times the person involved in that crime is giving up his partner.
        Moreover, people not involved in crimes many times have falsely accused others. Your rationale makes no sense and leaves a lot of criminals on the street.
        You also say: I also do not believe in a criminal profiting from rating a person out. It should be done without profit if they are inclined to tell the truth.”
        Nyella, that would be nice, but it is very naive to believe that since most criminals are not inclined to tell the truth by their very nature. Most times they have to be forced or rewarded. You bait a mouse with cheese and sometimes You sacrifice the mouse for a rat. Lol.
        It is disheartening and flawed because a lot of guilty people don’t pay for their crimes but, A lot of dangerous people are behind bars because of this system.
        You know, There is a lot to be said too for being able to figure somethings out for your self without waiting on a judge or police officer to tell you someone is nefarious, dangerous or is a menace to society. It seems you are basing your belief that a person is guilty only if he is caught or charged or if you see it yourself. This makes no sense. Do you know how many criminals walk this planet who has not yet been caught and tried? Or criminals caught for crimes no one witnessed?
        Common sense also dictates that when there is an over abundance of information about a person – good or bad- from multiple sources- some of it is bound to be true.
        If 10 different people pointed to the same stranger and said he was a great person, wouldn’t you be inclined to believe them just a little by the time the 10th person said the same thing? Especially if you saw that stranger do a good thing? It doesn’t mean the people telling you this info don’t have ulterior motives just because the info is positive.

        Question. Did you ever stop to think that Phaedra may have been part of Apollo’s plea deal? If that is the case she could be guilty as sin and never serve one day.

        You say “She could have just stayed single and not marry the know criminal Apollo if she wanted to lead a promiscuous lifestyle.”

        Now, Nyella,
        The girl married a known criminal- in your words-so what gives you such confidence she wouldn’t cheat? As a matter of fact- all the details I mentioned before -how she presents herself on TV as a freak and obsessed with sex, imo. It sure adds up to me.!

        You’re right that you’re innocent until proven guilty – in a court of law that is.
        But, I also believe guilty people are still guilty even if they never step foot in a courtroom.

        You say she is walking a line with her activities but not willing to give up what she worked for.

        Now see, this is the problem with greedy folks who get comfy, because they have been getting away with crimes and they start thinking they’re so smart that they can continue that life under the radar, But the greed makes them more brazen , callous- not as meticulous -and the wrongs and crimes get bigger and bigger until it all blows up in their face. Not even the biggest thief, adulterer, commits a misdeed intending to throw his life away.

        So when they get put on front street They try and cover their feet , but their head shows- then, they cover their head but their feet stick out.
        They then have to rely on the art of deflection – Trying to make people look at someone else even if they must lie so others don’t notice their dirty feet and head. Not everyone can do this- only the most cold blooded and callous people have the stomach for it.
        But eventually some people stop buying the facade if they ever did in the first place-and they just wait with bated breathe for his/her day of reckoning.

        You said: ” People who engage in illegal activities usually are not interested in furthering their education in businesses. ”

        You are only seeing one side of criminal behavior. Yes at taking shortcuts but some criminals use legit businesses to cover their illegal activities.
        Also, a lawyer may seek another profession when their illegal activities have ruined that career and they need another cover for their illegal activities. Lol.
        A criminal may even use his legal knowledge to circumvent the laws he intends to or is breaking.

        You feel sorry for Phaedra but she is no victim. She and Apollo are neck and neck. Apollo just go caught. You know the old saying- birds of a feather? Well there you go.
        In fact, I would be more inclined to feel sorry for Apollo who had no real father or mother. No role models. No one showed him love as a child. …..Had to fight and struggle for everything -at least that is his story.
        Phaedra has NO excuse. Period.
        Phaedra had both her parents and opportunities. Plus she professes to be a Christian and proclaims to be smart and a wordsmith. Again. No excuse.

        I know you are a good person Nyella2 and you don’t want to judge Phaedra. That is a good thing.
        The things you explain though could only happen in a perfect world. The world is far from perfect and if it were we would not be having this nice chat about bad things. Lol.
        Hugs. Have a good night.

      • Once again those are criminals speaking on criminals. Since when do criminals speak on law abiding citizens as the norm? Rarely, and only then where there is abundance of corroborating evidence that back them up, and it is still hard to convict, due to the nature of being a criminal and their activities is cause to double guess them. Speaking on another criminal is one thing, doing so on a law abiding citizen with no criminal past is another. Once again you are attaching Phaedra to Apollo by virtue of marriage! Her behavior is hers and Apollo’s acts are his alone. She has not been charged with any crime, so I will not believe that all these criminals are not speaking out on her from experience involving her, until an arrest is made. Any criminal can very easily point a finger for an excuse, you know that. How much more do I have to continue speaking on this? I am done. PHAEDRA IS NOT HER HUSBAND’S ACTIVITIES UNTIL IT IS PROVEN SO BY LAW. AT THIS POINT IN LIFE, IT HAS NOT BEEN DONE SO WHAT ARE YOU SPEAKING ON? CRIMINALS POINT OF VIEW? OR OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NOT ON THE RECORD AND/OR CURRENTLY BEING PLAYED OUT IN COURT? LET THE COURT DECIDE AS SHE HAD BEEN CONVICTED OF NOTHING! You are not the judge or jury of her fate. Her peers will not be made up of convicts that you are relying so heavily on. Why because they are not credible in the first place. They only do things for a reason, to become better off for the wrong reasons! The law has striped the criminal of their rights to be on a jury. This is fact rather you choose to acknowledge it or not. A criminal’s word is not as credible as a witness without a criminal background. (ugggh, this is beating a dead horse, skip the horses mouth)

        If I have super imposed my criteria on this, I am this way because that is the way of a normal society, a product of my environment. Law abiding citizens do not weigh a criminal’s word the same as someone without a criminal background. It is the law of the land, regardless of instances where the police does use a criminal to prove a case against someone who does not have a criminal background. The police has a hard time trying to get a jury to buy the criminal witness’ argument when they do so as well, and not all the time are the charged and sentenced as guilty when it is done. Why because there is to much cloud surrounding the convicts statements. That is why. Yet you are taking a small instance and trying to make it the norm for Phaedra when she is a law abiding citizen according to the police which governs society. Those witnesses you keep speaking of do not. If they had anything on her, they would have already taken it to the authorities and we would not know anything of it until after a case had been opened. If that is your intent, what makes you so sure that the police has not been down all of those avenues?

        We are not talking on people not involved in crimes who have wrongly accused others, but interestingly you have brought it up. It is not the case here, but everyone can be wrong in thought. That is why it is more important do deal with facts that are on the table and have been registered with the police. They do figure it out. We are not the police, we pay them to do their jobs, it would be nice if you let them do it. You already have Phaedra in jail, and may have only read a book of a criminal and her cohorts who are also criminals. Not to mention, innuendo that have not been place into evidence that we know of. So let the police do their job. You are on the outside looking in and I can assure you, the police do not go around leaking all the evidence(since you say there are many witnesses against Phaedra) of a case, when they have not made a case against someone(Phaedra) when they have opened a case against a person.

        I am not sacrificing anything. I just do not see why people have to be bribed to tell the truth. Law abiding citizens such as myself are not bribed to tell the truth. They speak it without a carrot being dangled in front of them, for the purpose of truth alone. A criminal should be the same way, only interested in getting the truth out without a reason for profit, otherwise the view is objectionable in the first place. Is it done, yes, do I uphold it, no! That is that! A criminal has everything to gain and nothing to lose with that rationale, yet you do not see it as an issue. That is you.

        You said, ” It seems you are basing your belief that a person is guilty only if he is caught or charged or if you see it yourself. This makes no sense. Do you know how many criminals walk this planet who has not yet been caught and tried? Or criminals caught for crimes no one witnessed?” –My view is a person is innocent until proven guilty, as that is the law of the land of which we live. This makes sense to me. Regardless of criminals who walk this earth who have not been charged, that is another issue entirely, and does not warrant us having to do the police jobs when we are unequipped to do so. If they are unequipped in doing so it is for them to come up with credible ways of offsetting it, not just throwing people in jail because we think they should be there, since you say, law abiding citizens get wrong to, then you should believe in the justice system we have as it is there to safeguard rights, and not just half hazardless send people to jail off of whims and innuendo that have not been proven in court. If those people are committing crimes and they get away with it and continue, they will eventually be caught. I do not second guess that statement.

        You say, “Common sense also dictates that when there is an over abundance of information about a person – good or bad- from multiple sources- some of it is bound to be true.” –Again I say, it depends on the sources and their credibility and their ability to give that information to the police for them to deal with it, instead of taking the law into their own hands. Which is what you are doing.

        You say, “If 10 different people pointed to the same stranger and said he was a great person, wouldn’t you be inclined to believe them just a little by the time the 10th person said the same thing? Especially if you saw that stranger do a good thing? It doesn’t mean the people telling you this info don’t have ulterior motives just because the info is positive.” –If I saw a stranger do a good thing, I would reflect off of that and not word of mouth. A stranger is a stranger and you should be removed until you are accustomed to viewing what is usual and customary by self observation/experience with any individual. Because a stranger is one way with a certain person does not mean he will be that way with you. I err on the side of caution with any stranger regardless of what is said about the stranger.

        You asked, “Question. Did you ever stop to think that Phaedra may have been part of Apollo’s plea deal? If that is the case she could be guilty as sin and never serve one day.”–Not for that reason, no, because when it comes to theft, I doubt the police will not go after the money that was lost, as Apollo does not have anything of value to replace what he took, Phaedra on the other hand does and it makes sense that if she was connected they could give those people their money back sooner by indicting her with Apollo as she has value that can be liquidated and returned to those people. By that not happening, I tend to view she had nothing to do with it. LOL Yes, I could be wrong with that thinking, but I could also be correct, and I err on the side of caution anyways with the understanding that the police seemed to do so as well. The police first priority is to the people who was robbed.

        If Phaedra was a freak, would it not make sense to not be tied down with one person? She risks going out and catching something one could not get rid of. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, her marriage to Apollo shows that it is not her preference to live that lifestyle. No one has stepped forward to second those claims as her sexual partner. Again more innuendo that is stirred from a criminal’s book. Where were all of these claims before that book came out. I do not think she is a nymphomaniac. She would have stayed single and did whatever she wanted to and not have to be bound by a marriage if that was the case. I believe you are reaching for something to bolster criminal activity, and it does not. Some people are more open to their sexuality, as Kandi is who is building her own sexual empire, and who is Phaedra’s friend. To think that she is sleeping with everyone because she does use and sell sexual tools and what?!nots?! does not lead me to entertain that Kandi uses those with people other than her significant other. The same with Phaedra, they like what they like and as long as they are in committed relationship and their significant other do not have a issue with it, that is their business. I do not care what they do in the privacy of their own home, neither am I interested in it.

        You say, “Not even the biggest thief, adulterer, commits a misdeed intending to throw his life away. “–You continue to break the law you will be caught. You continue to do wrong you will get caught. Regardless of wanting to be caught doing wrong, everyone knows that they run the chance of being caught with every wrong deed, especially if they continue doing so. It is just a matter of time. So yes, they are doing it with the intention of throwing their life away, unless they have no conscious, which they do and are just choosing to overlook it. The day will come for all who continues to break the law and do wrong.
        I do not think that Phaedra is some criminal mastermind. Since when are women the ones engaged in high scale illegal activity as a norm? Those cases are rare and you should check the statistics on it before mouthing off accusations that you are unaware of based off of innuendo and gossip that has not been turned over to the police and ruled on. She is no Heidi or whatever that woman who was busted for running that escort service for high profile white collar men. She was convicted, if Phaedra was doing so on a smaller scale, she would be as well, the police know what to look for. Phaedra would have to use countless gullible people to pull this off and they all would be subject to call in court, where are those people and where is this case? It does not exist and neither does your reasoning for it!

        Phaedra is a victim until it is proven that she is a criminal perpetrator. If she is not charged with anything, she has been made a victim in all of this. You feel sorry for Apollo for the things that Phaedra had, yet do not give her credit for any of those things being in her life, yet excuses Apollo as an adult for what he did not have as a child. I know people who had that same life and it made them try even harder to make their children better off than they were, not to mention their own hard work not to be dysfunctional as a cause of it, and to be more than what they were given early on in life. People hung up on the past can never realize their future, but you also have to give credit to the people who are trying to get them to move on in life and be better than the past, not to mention the opportunity. A person has to cherish better living in order to have it, because if they do not they will just resort to more dysfunction even if given the opportunity. Apollo is an adult now, and he can not longer keep using his past as an excuse to what he is doing. He got a second chance to have everything that he desired without having to work as hard for it as most would. I do not feel sorry for him. As he is repeating his path as a youth to his own children now, and he knows how he felt when it was done to him, yet he will not stop and so something different than what landed him in prison the first time. I believe he had resources to help him, and he chose to overlook them and continue his former life.

        The world is not perfect, but it does not mean that we have to start throwing caution to the wind in everyone of your reasoning, to feeling the way you do. Someone has got to be grounded in fact as they are what lead to the truth. Until credible facts in what you say comes available, I will err on the side of caution, so as to not damage people who have done no wrong, including his children. Without facts, I will not try to take their mother away from them when they have already lost their father. They may be married, but that does not necessarily make Phaedra apart of Apollo’s activities. He said he did what he did to keep up with her lifestyle and I believe him when he say that. Why? Because ego is hard to contain in men, they want to look bigger than what they are. They want female attention and to be attractive to numerous females. It is built into how they are and if not put into check will grow out of balance to what is real and proper. Those are also known facts.
        How is that Phaedra’s fault and how is she responsible for maintaining that for Apollo when he does not honor her by listening to her when she cautions him? He did not have the opportunity to build a relationship of respect to know how to honor his own parents for receiving discipline for bad habits and keeping him out of harms way? That is not her fault, it is his parents as a child, and his own as an adult! He has to acknowledge his shortcomings without transferring them onto his wife and children as an adult who obviously did not receive discipline in his youth and is having to be disciplined by society at large as an adult! If he was married or not to Phaedra he would still have this problem as shown by his prior stay in prison when he was single. So why is she being brought into his limitations to follow the law, when she was following the law before she got with him? It does not change automatically just because she married a con-artist who does not learn from past mistakes without credible proof of such. The burden to proof otherwise remains with the police, and not for us to decide, even if we have an opinion, it is not fact.

        Not yours, and not mines. They are only opinions until proven as fact and should not be taken for anything other than that, the same as all those things you are saying about Phaedra.

        Lest we, as law abiding citizens, are willing to add to the number of individuals who have been wrongfully incarnated behind bars and who are actually innocent. I am not that person.

        I could be a criminal and make up a lie on you and testify on you that you broke the law in court and receive payment in some sort of way and not even know you personally, and send you to jail and you should be okay with it, regardless of the lifestyle you lead. I am a criminal, I have bills and needs to, and you would just be a pawn to further my lifestyle which is what got me into this mess to begin with, yet you are seeking in ordaining this as common practice in society at large to be used when you see fit to convict which is used when you do not have enough evidence. Scary position to be in if you ask me, we all can be in jail for something we did not do, just by knowing someone who has committed crime. Crime is a huge business, we all know someone impacted by it. If you do not, what rock are you living under? That does not make one apart of it. People children get convicted of crimes living in their parents houses at the time, yet the parents are not being convicted along with the children. They same rule use here should apply for Phaedra, unless it shows that she is engaged in the activity.

      • Nyella, You are talking in circles.
        The point is That when one person is being accused by many of the same crimes – they are probably not law abiding citizens. Just because a judge has not told you that doesn’t mean it isn’t true.
        Your comments prove you know absolutely nothing about how the law, legal system works.

        Besides, Who asked you to put her in jail or take her away from her children??

        Fact: Criminals put other “innocent” criminals behind bars everyday all day. And there is no criteria in law that says you cannot be guilty of said crime to testify against someone else who has never been convicted of a crime. -no matter how much you disagree with that logic it happens. Everyday.

        Fact: everyone involved in that fraudulent ring was on hard times, desperate for money with nowhere else to turn. Including Apollo who said even after he got married Phaedra didn’t share her money with him.
        How much more gullible can you get? Predators look for people like who are desperate for quick money. That is as gullible as you need to be.

        Fact: people with great life and potential throw their lives away to crime everyday.
        Hell, Ted Bundy was charismatic, articulate, smart, good looking, and even had a future in politics. He went to the electric chair claiming his innocence.

        Fact: law abiding citizens, Christians don’t marry known criminals and they sure as hell don’t choose them to father their children! They. just. don’t. Period. End of story.
        Even you admitted he was a KNOWN criminal. That alone takes away ALL of Phaedra’s credibility.

        Fact: a woman as astute as Phaedra claims to be and as brilliant as you claim would never be in the dark about her “known criminal” husbands “career” that brings in millions with no real job! People can get out of my face with that one.

        Fact: Clean people live clean lives, associate and connect themselves to clean people and don’t have MULTITUDES of people claiming they were swindled by them, partnered in crime with them, approached by them for illegal opportunities and they sure don’t have the life long rep of head dr.!
        Say what you want- this just doesn’t happen to good, innocent people. Wake up please.

        Fact: a man just doesn’t embarrass his wife in front of her friends, associates and especially adversaries with a piñata full of condoms and only claims one child, unless he thinks his wife is a Nasty ho who sleeps around. He sure knows her better than you and me!

        I’m done too. I rest my case. Peace.

    • Calling Mr. Wille!! I need some help!

    • Yeah, they say Phaedra’s name is mud in Atlanta. No one takes her seriously. That act she puts on is so transparent.

  17. Kenya is nasty and broke. She will never amount to nothing. Cheap twirl.

    • Is she the one going to jail for fraud, identity theft, etc or the one going through a divorce with a criminal lol. She gets paid 600,000 per season she is not broke just acts as if she is wealthy when she is not. Non of the casts are broke lol but only two are wealthy NeNe and Kandi

    • She makes 600,000 per season, she’s not broke lol. non of the casts are broke but two are wealthy which is nene and kandi, so they are all fine. Its apollo that wont amount to anything

      • And most of it goes fast renting homes and cars, clothes, makeup, keeping up appearances, etc. etc. Did you not see Apollo not have those issues, and he still went thru millions of dollars of other people money?

      • You don’t know what’s in her bank account. You really don’t.

      • I know she was shown on the show, living in a small apartment that had she have the income of which you speak, she would not have been there in an apartment that I would not have stayed in. Which lends credit to that lady filing eviction on Kenya evicting her out of the home that she was renting for not paying the full amount of the lease, which Kenya denied. I may not know what she has in her bank account, but I know that you do not live a certain way on a certain income. If that was all she could afford, I get that, even if I would not live there. I also know she is how old and still does not own her own home. Home ownership shows stability of income according to a banking institution, wishful thinking is not credible or supported by any institution for likelihood of income and future income on Kenya’s part or she would have those thing that show stability, like every other consistently stable/profitable person.

      • You do know Bravo paid Nene’s rent for seasons, don’t you?

        Kenya won her case against the landlord. They taped it. She also sold her home in LA to come to Atlanta.

        You have not been paying attention. It seems that you’ve missed big chunks of what really went down.

      • This is not about Nene, this is about Kenya and Bravo is not paying her rent so what does it matter in relation to what is being discussed as the topic at hand?
        She won the case, but it showed she was living beyond her means if she could not go out and rent the same thing she had prior to moving out of that home. If I rent an apartment, I can move out and rent a similar apartment in that same price range on short notice, or long notice. You do not seem to be able to grasp that point.

        I do not have to wait an take a step back and work on doing it and save up to do it as I am in my income bracket and it is comfortable and normal to do without thinking, waiting, or having to save up for it, those things are done on a regular basis, unless I want to move up in price range which will involve dedicating more of my resources and activity to such.

    • She has more class than shady will ever have…and shady was the head doctor…pollo is the Patsy and he’ll scream like a biatch if shady reneges her support….can’t wait to see her smarmy southern Belle face behind bars

  18. she deserves what she gets, she is so full of herself and arrogant.

  19. I cant wait for next season of real housewives of atlanta lol and how Phaedra will be acting, all she knew was to talk about Kenya left and right about her chasing her dumb husband, having a serial killer sperm and etc. Look who has the criminal sperm now Phaedra(your children) from your jail bought husband Apollo. I knew Apollo was making up stories from how he was getting his money to pay strippers or meeting Kenya is a hotel which was LIEs. Kenya is not perfect but this anti-kenya nonsence last season is going to bight Phaedra, Nene, Apollo on the butt next season. I only feel sorry for Phaedra’s son, may God be with them. I never cared for Apollo, all he had going for him was his looks(“don’t drop the soap APOLLO”). I lost respect for phaedra after the reunion. some of the things she said against Kenya was uncalled for. Nene likes to fight with someone in the cast every season to keep her and her old cargo husband relevant. Forst she fights with Phaedra last season then she fights Kenya this season; watch out Cynthia your next.

    • Kenya is uncalled for…With her rock hard breast and ass too match!!!! #stillwhoreMoore.

    • She’s already starting on Cynthia, rehashing that old reunion drama. I hope Cynthia is ready for her. She’s classily putting the Moose in her place. Nene may regret coming back.

      • It’s true NeNe should watch out next season but I wish Cynthia good luck next season but I think she will be fine though. I think next season it is going to be Nene vs Cynthia and Marlo

      • Probably. She has to find someone to scapegoat. It’s in her DNA.

  20. So there you go. The truth, as some of us have always known.
    She should be embarrassed- running her mouth about other folks marital status, ability to get a man and would be prospects to father their children. Now look at her- she married a man who held every trait she ridiculed and to top it off he tells the world he wanted another woman. The woman she hated most. A joke for the ages.
    One might be inclined to feel bad for her if she wasn’t so ridiculously self righteous, smug and condescending.
    Can’t wait for him to spill the beans on all those other lies we already know the truth about.

    • jacqueline briscoe

      The woman Phaedra dislikes most now is Phaedra.

    • Exactly, Bobbi, we called this charade from the beginning. It was obvious who was doing the pursuing from the onset, which is why Phaedra’s smug, condescending ways were so offensive. Now Apollo just blew it all up in her face.

      Apollo was messing with all kinds of women and Phaedra knew it, she also knew Kenya wasn’t one of them, but she played the game and she got burnt.

      No better for her. It couldn’t have happened to a better person. She deserves all she got and more.

      Now on to the deposition where she has to put her hand on the Bible, which she’ll lie again, and get busted for the entire world to see.

    • It was crystal clear that he was a liar. What’s so funny is how Apollo is just now a liar, but in Kenya’s case, they uphold the lies.

      Either he’s a liar, or he’s not, in which case Kenya should be vindicated, right?

      Ironically, some people were actually upholding the “they were in love,” even though Apollo was treating Phaedra like dirt every time the cameras rolled.

      They too were bragging how Phaedra had a “huzzband” and Kenya didn’t. Only to now find out he wanted Kenya all along.

      Looks like egg on Phaedra’s and her posse’s faces now, to me. Phae Phae is humiliated for all the world to see.


  21. Michelle Holmes

    He finally admits that he was trying to get with Kenya and he is mad that Phaedra did not come to his court hearing?!? SMH

  22. Kenya was still messy about the situation and did things to make it seem like she was interested in him too. So she still don’t get props from me (a married woman of 18 years).

    • She’s not married. HE is. She didn’t try to have an affair, HE did. Kenya didn’t want him. And she didn’t like Phaedra either. So she handled it the way she felt like handling it. Bottom Line: She didn’t owe them a thing.

      • Sorry, I don’t have to deal with it, they do. I only added my opinion as did you. I’m cool with your take on the situation. I can’t stand Apollo personally, but Phaedra is the one that has to deal with it.

      • We Agree.

      • No one should have to go thru what he put that woman thru. I am a woman, and we get wrong, I can admit that, but it does not mean we have to like seeing Apollo or Kenya making a mockery of what is suppose to be sacred. Marriage.

      • Absolutely. And people forget that Apollo had a legitimate reason for texting Kenya at first, it was about the business of producing the video. It was Apollo who tried to make it about more than that.

        That’s why he lightweight “turned against” Kenya at times, because he was rebuffed. However, if she smiled in his direction, she was immediately forgiven.

        Anyone who couldn’t see through Apollo has rocks in their head. It was classic, “bish, I didn’t want you anyway.” You know, the way insecure guys do when you don’t let them holler.

        It’s sad that so many women didn’t spot this typical behavior.

      • Apollo was not rebuffed. Kenya did what she felt big enough to get away with. Well it Phaedra’s time now. Lets see what she has in store for RHOA! O-O LET”S GO!!!

      • What did Kenya do in your opinion?

        She flirted.
        Apollo picked her up.
        Apollo began texting her.
        Apollo lusted after her in every scene.
        What changed Apollo’s mind?
        If he wasn’t rebuffed and got what he wanted, where is the need for animosity?

        Anyway, it all worked out since he’s admitted twice, with the third time coming, that he lied from the beginning.

      • Kenya failed to protect her own best interest, regardless of Apollo, which had her coming across as crazy, flirting with disaster, jealous, insecure, caught up in another love triangle, provoking violence, dishonesty, nosy, cruel, untrustworthy, dangerous to be around, enticing married men, I could go on but let me know if that is enough for you to understand repercussions of her actions and are those words okay for a Kenya to have associated with her name in your book?

        Apollo’s word means nothing, he is a con-artist.

      • Ha ha ha.

      • Yes, laugh at self respect, and failure of it being shown by your own behavior and actions in society at large(public).

      • So what that mean it is okay to hang around married men as a single woman? NOT! Apollo is a proven con-artist and you still believing him at this point of his life? Ok? NOT! She do not owe them a thing, but she should care about her reputation as a single woman. If she does not owe them anything, why she hanging around? Clearly not for Phaedra attention. LOL

      • After the way Phaedra talked about her mother. And kept making fun of her mother? All bets are off. She made fools of them both – and for the record, I don’t blame her.She had it coming.

      • She went there because Kenya was not acting as if she had been raised by a mother. Which could have been on point, but that was mean to say even if it was the case. She can not help that her mother did not want to be a part of her life. No child should have to be responsible for their parents behavior, but as an adult you have to move past it, and make sure that you are not allowing that dysfunction to control you life in any way as well.

      • what she should not have done, was to throw her mother in face. Extremely low. I was done with her from that point onward. I don’t care for Phaedra. Or Apollo for that matter. I like Kenya. THE END.

      • You do realize it’s a Television show?

      • Yes, and reality television reflect their lives. Or is it fake that Apollo is going to jail? Phaedra made a poor choice in a husband? Kenya is messy and get involved with married men? That is not television, that is life as well. Excuses do not negate facts.

      • They all put their business on blast for Bravo. How much concern do you expect anyone to honestly have. Their “”real lives” are entertainment. IT’S a Television Show. If that’s the way they want to conduct their so-called private lives, then I’m not going to get too bent out of shape. .Whoever plays the game best, wins.
        Enough with the replies now.
        Be Well.

      • The only concern I am on is for people to not uphold and practice dysfunction as a chosen way of living for their own households regardless of what you see playing out on television. Know dysfunction and do not glorify and excuse it in your own household, that is my concern. In order to fix dysfunction you have to realize it, and put a plan of action together to prevent it and society will become better off instead of more of the same/worse off. We are also part of our environment to some degree, and it helps shape our children, so our influence has to be greater in identifying dysfunction and transfer that ability to our children. That should be everyone concern, unfortunately most do not care to look at solving it, and just live with it as a way of life, and it does not have to be that way.

        Goodbye as well. You the same!

      • It is dysfunctional to marry a convict straight out of prison, no?

      • Not if the convict has learned their lesson. There are some cases of such. Some people do learn from the things they do and it is not dysfunctional to do so. However, the proof is in the pudding, time is the only thing that is going to show you that they have mended their ways and Phaedra should have let more time pass before marrying Apollo to be able to appropriately verify the end of his dysfunctional lifestyle of living.

        They can go back on their word, which makes it a lie that Phaedra based her judgment to marry Apollo on, and which makes Apollo dysfunctional, and Phaedra lacking common sense. It can bring dysfunction to her household as well, but I do not think it makes her dysfunctional based on one time alone. She is just not common sense smart. Mistakes happen when based off of lies, and she was not the person who lied. It may have an effect on her children if she does not find a way to replace the stable healthy male influence (grandfather, father figure) in her children’s life who can negate the damage their father lies have created. If this is done it does not create dysfunction, just loss and sad feelings that they move on past in time.

        People die and it is not dysfunctional, people leave your household and that alone does not lead to dysfunction, but it can if you do not address the absence their role brings in it’s offerings and replace it with the healthy resources capable of giving what is needed.
        It just pays to be careful and verify for yourself that they have mended their ways before making a rash judgment.

      • And what time frame is sufficient to learn their lesson? Phaedra married Apollo immediately upon his release from prison. There wasn’t enough time to gauge what his true intentions were.

        That’s the problem. Little to no time had lapsed to see if he had changed or had any remorse, so Phaedra must be really stupid to think that he walked out of jail, was immediately converted and then got a mysterious job that paid so much money that he could go to the strip clubs and drop $8,000 a night at will, come home and bring her the receipts, and no red flag as to his criminal history crossed her mind.

        That is hilarious!

      • It take a year or more to get over death, how much so does it take to verify that someone had changed their ways? I would say anywhere from two years to five years. Usually it takes a year and 1/2 for a offender to repeat crime. It does not take long for those who choose to engage in that lifestyle, but you have to err on caution. I say three to five years to play it safe.
        He could have shown remorse thru out his time in prison. We do not know if they were in contact or not for sure. It does not dawn on me that she would jump up and marry him without more engagement time unless it was occurring when he was behind bars. She knew him before he went to prison. Apollo could have been bragging about what he was spending in the strip clubs. He lies about everything else.

      • Do you mean whoever live life best wins as it is a reality show? If so that is my point and I try to honor it in all of my posts, without favoring or excusing dysfunction as a game, but by encouraging the ending of dysfunction for the negative messy life( you call game) associated with it that it brings to the table to all who is effected by it as part of that life.

        Dysfunction ignores the cure/prevention aspect of dysfunction, or it would not be there to begin with. Which is how you deal with mess, clean it up and seek to prevent it then move on instead of wallowing in it with excuses. Adults should be mature enough to know an irrational excuse when they speak one, unless you are so blind to your own habits that you fail to realize that it will get you no where in life in the long run, but more dysfunctional behavior.

        Dysfunction should not define you, the prevention and cure of it makes you better off than continuing to live on the foundational stage of dysfunctional behavior forever controlling your life.

      • Yes, that was extremely low taste as has been shown in her taste in a husband. Phaedra too has to up her standards to that regard.

      • jacqueline briscoe

        Preach. Next Phaedra will be throwing her dead dog in her face, Gentile southern lady. Somethings you just dont do.

        My prayer is these ladies can make proper amends to one another. May never be friends but its the right thing. We all must forgive so we can be forgiven. Since the fox will be out the hen house ….maybe.

      • Well amends at least. Because I agree. Apollo is not worth the energy.

      • Gentile southern lady. Somethings you just dont do.

        This right here says it all. Phaedra has shown herself to be of very low character. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

        I have never seen someone go as low as she does. There is nothing Christian or genteel about her, at all.

      • jacqueline briscoe


      • It amazes me how people put strippers, felons, mug-shotted people, violent attackers, head doctors, thieves, etc up on a pedestal and then get mad when you don’t.

        Society is in a bad place, indeed.

      • I might would like her more if she would grow up and act her age instead of taunting everyone else’s life when her life need her own attention and focus. Kenya is not as successful in her endeavors as the rest of the cast and trying to make fun of their lives when they are better off than she is, regardless of what we think, shows jealously on Kenya’s part. Especially since Kenya is following in Nene’s shadow, with her charity organization, going on Donald Trump, to jet-set her income and do what Nene has done to secure her own future. She copied Phaedra’s work out DVD. Yet she is the one trying to come up off of their directions in life and their ideas. Really? She is upset with Porsha because Porsha is the eye candy of the show and not her, after all she is the beauty pageant winner. So what if Porsha get’s divorced or Phaedra, they did not make their living copying someone else standards of life and then putting them down while doing so. Kenya is just to shallow for me, there is nothing interesting about her at all as a storyline this far.

      • So much for Kenya upholding her own reputation, only Phaedra has to do that for talking about Kenya’s mother. lol

      • Phaedra has a long history of doing very vile things. That was beyond low. Hence, I see nothing redeeming about her either. She is vicious. Period.

      • Phaedra was horrible to Kenya. She’s simply getting paid back for her nasty ways, and Kenya didn’t have to raise a finger. God don’t like ugly and look who came out on the short end.

        Fake Phaedra. I have no sympathy for her at all.

        And, I love that she no longer has a husband, since she coveted it so much.

        Ha ha ha. I guess she has no self worth now, going by the way she thinks.

      • She won’t be off licking her wounds for long. She wants the money too much. We’ll see her true thuggishness soon enough. But her self worth couldn’t have been all that much to begin with, judging from the huzzzband she chose.

      • I wonder how many lavish parties she’ll have now that hubby’s in the clinker. She’s supposed to be so independently wealthy and successful.

        I’ll wait.

      • Do not hold your breath. And why would a successful attorney venture into the mortuary and pet funeral business; do booty videos or whatever else sticks? They wouldn’t.

      • I know. People write their own resumes and fudge the mess out of them. Since I don’t believe one word that comes out of her mouth, she may as well have written White House Correspondent, International Spy, and lawyer for Bill Gates as well as a whole bunch of other things. It’s just more bile coming from a wretched woman.

        Anyone who comes on national TV and lies through their teeth about their due date and later pretends the baby came early, and expects someone to believe it is crazy.

        If Phaedra was a successful attorney she wouldn’t have time to pursue all of those other ventures. There’s only so many hours in a day.

        If she did all of those things while holding down an attorney role, those children were neglected.

        Oh wait. Her mother was raising them. Another sin for the money grubber, because we know Apollo wasn’t paying them any attention either.

      • You can not fudge income and taxes as easily as you think.

      • If Phaedra one then Kenya is as well. Who tells a wife her husband wants her in his life, and she is not a relative but a single woman who loves showing off her body and loves the attention that stems from it? Yet everyone but her are fools. Not!

      • Hang around him in public, with the entire cast around?

        She was only talking to him to get him to apologize on camera.

      • She should have went thru his wife, as he was a married man. Her running after him only tarnished her reputation further.

      • Oh stop it.

        Apollo shouldn’t texted her. Period. Apollo is the one who’s supposed to realize he’s married.

        She never ran after him. Where did you get that? From Phony Phaes lying lips, LOL?

        Apollo admitted that he lied. Why are you still holding onto his lie? I don’t get it. He’s admitted it twice. HE MADE IT UP!

      • Yes she did why was she told to stay away from him? Apollo has no problem with lying.

      • When will women understand that the person who made a vow with them is the person who owes you trust and commitment?

        No, they want to blame the women who was approached by their triflent, shiftless husband.That’s so they can continue to trust in the lying snake that they sleep with.

        Utter deflection.

      • You are speaking the truth. AMEN!

      • Some of these people blow my mind. Some married men have done this for ages and these people still blame the woman. That is bat$%&! crazy.

        This acquaintance of mine ran into her boyfriend on the street talking to this girl. She cussed the girl out. Then, she was telling me like I would think that was smart. I blocked her number. I don’t have time for ignorance like that. Total stupidity, I don’t deal with idiots like that.

      • This man admitted he lied and all that he said happened, didn’t happen. Unreal.

    • Seem, she was interested. When a wife tell you to stay away from her husband, you stay away. Better yet, what you hanging around someone else husband for? No one should have to tell any woman who is not related to stay away from my husband.

      • She deserved it.

      • That is how some people have gotten killed and I try to not uphold violence so prevention goes along way in the cure of violence. Prevent yourself from being misunderstood in your intentions in regards to someone else spouse. You do not egg it on, which Kenya did. (Kenya to Phaedra: That not what your husband want.) She said that to Phaedra and you are upholding her messiness.

      • She sure did deserve for her husband to lust after a beautiful woman. Phaedra was just an ugly, fat repository that he used. After six years in prison she was a darn fool to hook up with him. That’s just nasty.

      • Thought you said in an earlier response that “God don’t like ugly”. And here you are in this later response being just that, ugly.

      • Sounds like you’re a Phaedra fan, but that still doesn’t stop me from not liking ugly behavior, criminal, head doctors, etc.

        To each his own.

      • She also told Apollo to stay away from Kenya, and he said he would do whatever he wanted to.

        Married men are always coming after single women. Look at the statistics.

      • Men ( the majority anyway) like to chase, not to be chased.
        And they generally don’t take no for an answer. You really have to force it; and sometimes, not even then…
        Whatever his reason(s) Apollo did exactly what he wanted to do. Blame him why don’t you?

      • I meant. Why don’t THEY.

      • Crazy!

      • I don’t get it either. That’s too twisted for me. My issue would be with my mate. As far as I know married men are not supposed to disobey their vows.

        Apollo lusted after Kenya. He lied on her repeatedly and acted like a juvenile when he didn’t get his way. End of story.

      • That does not make it right. What is your point? Look at the statistics of divorce today, then after doing so do not learn from it?

  23. The reality show curse strikes again

  24. U go kenya I still liked u when everyone was against u serves phony phea phae right now who doesnt have huzband

    • Like Apollo is hard to replace? That was Kenya all up on Apollo shaking her butt around a group of men after she was asked to stay away from Apollo. She did dirt and I do not care what Apollo says, he just looking for the next woman he can use to put money on his books.

    • Yep, she validated herself by having a criminal for a husband. Dumb @$$.

  25. Ah ha ha. Phaedra should be so embarrassed. That didn’t take long for karma to bite her in her donkey booty. A blind man could see how Apollo was lusting after Kenya. The rest of the cast is crazy, not Kenya, and it will all be revealed in the future.

    Her and Porsha talking about their “huzzbands”, now one is divorced and the other one headed for the same thing. That’s what you get for trying to lord stuff over others. It comes back to bite you.

    Bye Felicias, and learn to keep your traps shut in the future.

    • I know that’s right!

    • The only thing she should be embarrassed of is trusting him, at this point. He is replaceable. *Beyoncé You must not know bout Phae, You must not know bout Phae! Just kidding. Why he out talking all that ish so someone will put money on his books.

      • Phaedra had already been implicated with criminal deeds. Angela wrote a book about it. But, you still think that Phaedra was dumb enough to get with a known felon and crook because she “trusted” him?

        So, I meet a murderer, fresh out the pen, and I think I can immediately reform him, without a waiting period?

        I’m going to take this murderer into my bosom for the sake of love?


      • Those are accusations that are still to play out in court, so I refrain from basing opinion on them until they have been ruled on, as that author has been filed a lawsuit on and time will tell. Rash to judgment leads to assumptions, yet you want to know if Phaedra is dysfunctional for doing it, yet it is okay for you to do. Really? One should not be double standard in way of thinking.

    • Apollo is a con-artist, how many times do I have to say that? He just wants money put on his books.

      • Say it until you’re blue in the face. But Phaedra is a con artist too.
        And her donkey-booty got bit.

      • Prove it! Saying it alone does not make it true, back it up with evidence other than wishful thinking. The crimes of the husband are not the crimes of his wife. If so I believe the Feds would be all over her as well.

        You act like black women have not had to face this same thing, as a large number of the black male population has been incarnated for some period of time. Phaedra not the first to have to go thru that, and she will not be the last. She could have married someone without a criminal record and still have found herself in that situation. Yes, her odds were higher with Apollo, but that does not negate the fact that HE is the man and SHOULD have SET the STANDARDS for his house of legal enterprise. He did not and it does not transfer that failure to his wife, regardless of her wealth and her drive to legally achieve those things in life, because she has and did set legal standards, or she would be facing the same life as Apollo! What responsibilities do you place with Apollo as the head of his own household, and stop trying to transfer his role as a husband and put it all on his wife’s back to carry, regardless of her own drive. She has done her part as a wife, and mother regardless of what you think of it.

        She has been successful at it as well which is why she took up for her husband in the first place. It was the wifely thing to do if you do not have a belief that he is involved in criminal enterprise. That there should say what she knew and thought. She would not run the risk of being made to look so foolish if she did not believe this con-artist. The con he pulled REMAINS on him, not her as his wife, and Kenya should have stayed out of their marriage to begin with and she would not have been pulled into his con-artist lifestyle either. You ever thought Phaedra could have been trying to protect Kenya telling her to stay away from Apollo? No that it even crossed your mind because you to busy trying to understand and rationalize Kenya’s need/want for attention from this married man.

        If shows that there was no man in Kenya’s life or she would have been focused on him, not Apollo. Which is where she went wrong in the first place and you refuse to say it was wrong. Apollo was a married man and she a single woman. Kenya’s worth should be more than trying to get even with a female thru that female’s husband! She has a 100 problems contrary to her popular belief.

        Apollo and Kenya behavior shows what they are lacking more so than Phaedra. Phaedra has her own issues and they do not transfer to Apollo and Kenya and you should not transfer their issues onto her. They remain with the author of the behavior, not those surrounding them, as adults. These are not children.

      • Of course she is. Her unethical parking lot behavior proves she is not on the up and up. Monies from clients is supposed to go through the accounting department and receipted. Law firms are diligent about these practices.

        Phaedra exposed herself. Angela Stanton is telling the truth, and Phaedra will be caught.

        I can’t wait until she gets her comeuppance. Nobody deserves it more.

    • Time for Mr. Willie to start biting the donkey booty. LOL.

  26. Stay strong

  27. I have always said it was him. I know Kenya is crazy, but Apollo is slimy.